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What do people think of the following? Remember 16:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Moved comments from Shakespeare WikiProject page:
I wanted to get the project's opinion on my suggested change to the Shakespeare template. So what do you think?Remember 16:49, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know how to move the picture to the top right corner, and then have the template lists fill in the white space below the picture (like in an article)? I was thinking that this template has become quite large with a lot of white space. If the picture was top right and the categories from "Comedies" down went full width, the template would be considerably smaller and more pleasing to the eye. I'd at least like to see what it would look like. Anyone? Smatprt (talk) 16:16, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
I reverted a number of major changes that have been made over the last week or so. None of these changes were described in the edit summary, and none were discussed on the talk page - where we had spent considerable time working up a consensus for the present (reinstated) version. The template today (the reinstated one) is short and to the point, with not a lot of white space. Prior to my reversion, the template had grown to more than twice its size, and contained tons of wasted space. Any thoughts?Smatprt (talk) 16:44, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
My objection to the placement of the SAQ link was its prominence after it was "restored," before which it was last or next to last on the list. I have alphabetised the list, so I hope we can agree that is the neutral method to list them.
I've moved this suggested template here for discussion. Smatprt (talk) 05:57, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
And here is the current version for comparison purposes:
I realize this template has seen recent revert wars so understand the caution, but as I stated in the history Melchior's version seems pretty straightforwardly better to me. It properly uses subgroups, colors are consistent with other templates, and eliminates a lot of redundancy in the bottom group. Restoring the picture on the right side (as I've seen done for other author templates) isn't a bad idea, though; the coat of arms (but not the quill, which is pointless) could go there, too. YLee (talk) 06:34, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
I've moved Edward IIIfrom the Apocrypha section into the Histories section, as it's now pretty much considered as part of the canon. It's included in the Oxford, Riverside, Norton and Arden collected editions, Cambridge have an edition of the play and both Oxford and Arden editions are forthcoming in 2012. I think that makes it official. Bertaut (talk) 00:35, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
I moved Cardenio and Love's Labour's Won to the list of plays. How are lost plays apocrypha? An apocryphal play is a play spuriously attributed to Shakespeare. Incidentally, even though I left Sir Thomas More among the apocrypha in the template, that's wrong too as scholarly consensus is that Shakespeare contributed to the text of the play and some editions of Shakespeare's plays even include it in the canon. Contact Basemetal here 05:26, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
I think the recent edit by Ham needs to be discussed before going live in the template. I'm not sure adding a key is a good idea in what is already a fairly complex template. Additionally, 2 Henry VI was marked as a collaboration. This is inaccurate; the general consensus is that if any of the trilogy was co-written, it was 1 Henry VI. Titus Andronicus is also marked as a collaboration; again, this is far from certain. I think marking plays such as these as collaborations on the template gives a sense of certainty to questions which have no firm answers. And as I said, I'm not sure adding a key is a good idea at all. Simply adding "lost" parenthetically has worked up until now. Five Antonios (talk) 19:25, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
cf. my removal and Randy Kryn's revert.
Normal navigation (such as main article text wikilinks or navboxes) should not take users out of mainspace and into the bowels of MediaWiki technical hoodoo such as templates.
Now, whether this template should include the family some way? Yes, certainly; but either through a link to Shakespeare's life (which includes his family tree), a link to a new Shakespeare's family article (which we should probably make anyway, come to think of it), or, possibly, by incorporating the text links from {{Family of William Shakespeare}} into a separate group on this template.
In fact, come to think about it, the latter may be a very good way to preserve the content while getting rid of the separate template (cf. discussion at that template's talk page). --Xover (talk) 05:56, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
I note that this has moved about in the template over the years, but given Edward III is included as canonical is there a case for say sir Thomas More should likewise not be in Apocrypha, but listed under Tragedies? Dunarc (talk) 19:43, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
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I'm considering putting articles like Cultural references to Macbeth and Cultural references to Hamlet in the Legacy section, thoughts? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:20, 19 August 2020 (UTC)